V+得過
Worth Doing / Trustworthy
The pattern V + 得過 (dak1 gwo3) indicates that an action is advisable, worthwhile, or that the subject is reliable. Its negative form is V + 唔過 (m4 gwo3), meaning 'not worth it' or 'unreliable'.
How It Works
In Cantonese, V + 得過 is a potential complement construction. It starts with a literal spatial meaning and extends into semi-lexicalized meanings of worthiness or reliability.
1. Key Usage Categories:
- Literal Spatial Movement: Literally means 'can physically V across/over'. For example, 跳得過 (tiu3 dak1 gwo3) means 'can jump over', and 行得過 (haang4 dak1 gwo3) means 'can walk across/pass through'.
- Trustworthiness: Used with verbs like 信 (seon3, trust), it means 'reliable'. 信得過 (seon3 dak1 gwo3, trustworthy) vs 信唔過 (seon3 m4 gwo3, unreliable).
- Worthiness & Quality: Used with verbs of perception, consumption, or action to mean 'worth the effort' or 'decent quality'. 睇得過 (tai2 dak1 gwo3) can mean 'worth watching' or 'presentable/looks okay'. 食得過 (sik6 dak1 gwo3) means 'worth eating' or 'decent quality for the price'. Other highly common examples include 買得過 (maai5 dak1 gwo3, worth buying) and 諗得過 (nam2 dak1 gwo3, worth considering).
- Physical & Metaphorical Surpassing: With action verbs, it means 'can defeat' or 'can surpass'. For example, 跑得過 (paau2 dak1 gwo3) means 'can outrun' and 打得過 (daa2 dak1 gwo3) means 'can win in a fight'. Note that Cantonese speakers also frequently use the alternative V + 得贏 (dak1 jeng4) for this category (e.g., 打得贏, 跑得贏). Metaphorically, it means getting past someone's perception, such as 瞞得過 (mun4 dak1 gwo3, can deceive/get past someone).
2. Negation and Questions:
The explicit negative formula is V + 唔 + 過 (V m4 gwo3), which applies to all four categories. It means 'cannot physically cross' (e.g., 行唔過), 'cannot be trusted' (e.g., 信唔過), 'not worth doing' (e.g., 買唔過), or 'cannot surpass' (e.g., 打唔過). To ask a question, use the A-not-A structure V 唔 V 得過 (e.g., 信唔信得過? seon3 m4 seon3 dak1 gwo3? - Is it trustworthy?). Note that when used as an adjective modifying a noun, the negation 唔 is sometimes placed at the front: 一個唔信得過嘅人 (jat1 go3 m4 seon3 dak1 gwo3 ge3 jan4 - an untrustworthy person), alongside the standard formula 一個信唔過嘅人 (jat1 go3 seon3 m4 gwo3 ge3 jan4).
3. Object Placement:
The position of the object depends on the meaning:
- Literal Spatial Movement: The obstacle or location follows the complement (V + 得過 + Obstacle/Location). For example, 跳得過個欄 (tiu3 dak1 gwo3 go3 laan4 - can jump over the hurdle).
- Trustworthiness & Surpassing: The object usually follows the complement (V + 得過 + Object). For example, 信得過佢 (seon3 dak1 gwo3 keoi5 - can trust him) or 打得過佢 (daa2 dak1 gwo3 keoi5 - can defeat him).
- Worthiness & Quality: The object is almost always fronted as the topic (Topic + V + 得過). For example, 呢部手機買得過 (ni1 bou6 sau2 gei1 maai5 dak1 gwo3 - this phone is worth buying).
4. Register:
While the 'Trustworthiness' and 'Surpassing' usages (like 信得過 and 打得過) are shared with Standard Written Chinese and Mandarin, the 'Worthiness & Quality' usage is highly colloquial. In formal contexts, you would use 值得 (zik6 dak1, worth) before the verb instead for worthiness.
5. Important Distinctions:
- Do not confuse 食得過 (worth eating) with 食得 (sik6 dak1). The latter is used to mean 'edible', 'safe to eat', or very commonly, 'can eat a lot / has a big appetite' (e.g., 佢好食得 keoi5 hou2 sik6 dak1). Similarly, 睇得過 refers to quality or being worth watching, while 睇得 can mean 'can see', 'is allowed to watch', or very commonly in colloquial Cantonese, 'good-looking' or 'attractive' when describing a person.
- Learners often confuse V + 得過 (e.g., 買得過 - a sound/safe purchase) with 抵 + V (e.g., 抵買 dai2 maai5 - good deal/value for money). 買得過 focuses on the quality or reliability of the purchase, while 抵買 focuses on the price being a bargain.
Examples (6)
- 呢個人信得過。
This person is trustworthy.
Word by Word: This [CL] person trust-can-pass.
Here, 'trustworthy' is expressed by saying the person can 'pass' the test of being trusted.
- 呢套戲都睇得過。
This movie is worth watching.
Word by Word: This [CL] movie also watch-can-pass.
Suggests the movie is of sufficient quality to justify the time spent watching it.
- 佢着成噉都幾睇得過吖。
He looks quite presentable dressed like that.
Word by Word: He wear become so also quite watch-can-pass [SFP].
In this context, 睇得過 (tai2 dak1 gwo3) means 'presentable' or 'looks okay' rather than 'worth watching'.
- 呢間餐廳食得過,價錢好平。
This restaurant is worth eating at; the price is very cheap.
Word by Word: This [CL] restaurant eat-can-pass, price very cheap.
食得過 (sik6 dak1 gwo3) means the food is of decent quality for the price, not that it is 'safe to eat'.
- 我跑得過佢。
I can outrun him.
Word by Word: I run-can-pass him.
With physical action verbs, this pattern functions as a literal potential complement meaning 'can surpass' or 'can defeat'.
- 嗰間公司信唔過。
That company is unreliable.
Word by Word: That [CL] company trust-not-pass.
The negative form 信唔過 (seon3 m4 gwo3) indicates that the subject fails the evaluation of trust.
Common Mistakes
Confusing 'worth doing' or 'trustworthy' with 'have done before'.
我信得過佢一次。我信過佢一次。If you want to say 'I trusted him once' (past experience), use the experiential marker 過 alone. Adding '得' changes the meaning to 'He is trustworthy'.
Confusing the negative potential 'cannot surpass/defeat' with 'have never done'.
Different Meaning我未打過佢。我打唔過佢。To say you 'cannot defeat' someone in a fight or competition, use the negative potential form 打唔過 (daa2 m4 gwo3). Using 未...過 means you 'have never fought' them.
How It Connects
Learn This First
V+得過 is a fixed potential construction. To understand it, learners need to be familiar with the potential marker '得' and the resultative/directional use of '過'. It functions as a specialized way to express that an action is worth doing or that a person/thing meets a threshold of reliability (e.g., 信得過 - trustworthy).
- V+過Verb + Across
The directional/resultative use of 過 (meaning 'across' or 'passing through') provides the semantic basis for the 'passing' or 'surmounting' a threshold of worth or trust.
Level 2 - 值得Be Worth
Understanding the concept of 'worth' in Cantonese helps contextualize the specific idiomatic usage of V+得過 for value and trust.
Level 4
Related Patterns
- V+得(可能)Can Be Done / Is Allowed
The 'dak1' in 'V+得過' is a potential marker, but 'V+得' on its own usually means 'can' or 'is allowed to'.
Level 2 - 過(經驗)Experiential Aspect
Learners often confuse the 'worth doing' meaning of 'V+得過' with the 'past experience' meaning of the aspect marker '過'.
Level 2 - Verb + 得 + AdjectiveManner Complement
While 'V+得過' looks like a manner complement, Cantonese uses '得' for manner and '到' for extent.
Level 2 - V唔CNegative Long Potential
The negative 'V唔過' (cannot surpass/not worth) follows the standard pattern of potential complement negation.
Level 3