-den -e kadar
From ... Until
The pattern [Point A]-den [Point B]-e kadar means 'from A to B'. It is used for time (Monday to Friday), distance (home to work), and numbers (one to ten).
How It Works
The -den -e kadar pattern is the standard way to define a continuous span in Turkish. It consists of three parts:
- Starting Point: The noun takes the ablative case suffix (-dan, -den, -tan, -ten) based on two-way vowel harmony and consonant assimilation.
- Endpoint: The noun takes the dative case suffix (-a, -e). If the word ends in a vowel, use the buffer consonant -y-. If the noun ends in p, ç, t, k, it may undergo consonant softening (e.g., mutfaktan sokağa kadar). If the noun has a 3rd person possessive suffix, use the buffer consonant -n- (e.g., evinden işine kadar).
- Postposition: The word kadar follows the dative-marked endpoint. In formal contexts, you may see the synonyms -e dek or -e değin.
This pattern is versatile and applies to:
1. Time: Sabahtan akşama kadar (From morning until evening).
2. Space: Evden okula kadar (From home to school).
3. Quantity: Birden ona kadar (From one to ten).
Note that the endpoint -e kadar can stand alone to mean 'until' or 'as far as' without a starting point. When using personal pronouns as the endpoint, they must be in the dative form (e.g., bana kadar).
Examples (5)
- Pazartesiden cumaya kadar çalışıyorum.
I work from Monday to Friday.
Word by Word: Monday-from Friday-to until I-am-working.
Shows a temporal range using days of the week.
- İzmir'den İstanbul'a kadar arabayla gittik.
We went from Izmir to Istanbul by car.
Word by Word: Izmir-from Istanbul-to until car-with we-went.
Shows a spatial range between two cities. Note the use of apostrophes for proper nouns.
- Birden yüze kadar sayabilir misin?
Can you count from one to a hundred?
Word by Word: One-from hundred-to until count-able-you question?
Shows a quantitative range using numbers.
- Sabahtan akşama kadar ders çalıştım.
I studied from morning until evening.
Word by Word: Morning-from evening-to until lesson I-worked.
A common expression for duration of time.
- Kütüphaneden eve kadar yürüdüm.
I walked from the library to the house.
Word by Word: Library-from house-to until I-walked.
Demonstrates physical distance between two locations.
Common Mistakes
Using the wrong case for the endpoint.
Sabahtan akşamda kadar.Sabahtan akşama kadar.The endpoint must take the dative case (-a/-e), not the locative case (-da/-de).
Forgetting the buffer consonant -y- for words ending in vowels.
Sinemadan tiyatroa kadar.Sinemadan tiyatroya kadar.When the endpoint ends in a vowel (like tiyatro), you must use the buffer -y- before the dative suffix -a.
Using the genitive case for pronouns in a range.
Evden benim kadar yürü.Evden bana kadar yürü.When 'kadar' means 'until/to', pronouns must be in the dative (bana, sana, ona). The genitive (benim kadar) is only for comparisons meaning 'as much as me'.
How It Connects
Learn This First
To understand the '-den -e kadar' construction, you must first be familiar with the Ablative case (-den) for the starting point and the Dative case (-e) for the destination or end point. Additionally, familiarity with the postposition 'kadar' is essential as it functions as the anchor for the limit being described.
- -(y)e (yönelme hâli)Dative Case
The pattern uses the dative case suffix -(y)e to mark the end point of the range.
Level 1 - -den/-dan (ayrılma hâli)Ablative Case
The pattern uses the ablative case suffix -den to mark the starting point of the range.
Level 2 - kadar (eşitlik)As ... as
Understanding the basic use of the postposition 'kadar' is necessary before using it in complex range constructions.
Level 2
Related Patterns
- -e kadarUntil and as Far as
This is the second half of the pattern, used alone to mean 'until' or 'as far as'.
Level 3 - -den beriSince
Used for a starting point that continues to the present ('since'), whereas -den -e kadar has a fixed endpoint.
Level 2 - Consonant Softening
The endpoint noun may undergo consonant softening when the dative suffix is added.
Level 1