mi (személyes névmás)
We in Context
Hungarian uses the single pronoun mi for 'we', but it doesn't distinguish between 'you and I' (inclusive) and 'they and I' (exclusive) on its own. To be specific, speakers use the Inclusory Plural Pronominal Construction (IPPC) or rely on context.
How It Works
In Hungarian, the pronoun mi is often omitted because the verb ending already indicates 'we'. However, Hungarian uses specific strategies to clarify who 'we' includes:
- Inherent Ambiguity: A simple verb like megyünk (we go) or the pronoun mi is neutral. It does not distinguish between inclusive 'we' (you and I) and exclusive 'we' (they and I). Context usually resolves this.
- The IPPC Pattern: To specify 'X and I', Hungarian uses a plural pronoun in the nominative case combined with a noun taking the -val/-vel suffix, or a conjugated comitative pronoun ([Nominative Plural Pronoun] + [Name/Noun] + -val/-vel or [Nominative Plural Pronoun] + [Conjugated Pronoun]). For example, Mi Jánossal means 'John and I'. Crucially, this comitative element can also be a conjugated pronoun: Mi veled means 'You and I', and Mi vele means 'He/She and I'. The total number of people is the primary referent (I, you, or he/she) plus the number of the noun (e.g., Mi a szüleimmel = 'My parents and I'). Note that possessive suffixes in this construction agree with the logical singular speaker, not the plural pronoun (e.g., you say Mi a feleségemmel 'My wife and I', instead of Mi a feleségünkkel 'Our wife and I'). This pattern also applies to the third person (e.g., Ők Jánossal functions as 'He/She and John' in the inclusory pattern, though it can also mean 'They and John' depending on context).
- Semantic Restrictions: This inclusory construction is restricted to definite or specific nouns that have a close sociological or personal relationship with the speaker, which includes pets (e.g., Mi a kutyámmal = 'My dog and I'). It cannot be used with inanimate objects or non-specific nouns (e.g., you cannot say Mi egy asztallal to mean 'A table and I').
- Verb Agreement: The verb must always agree with the plural pronoun used in the construction. If the phrase starts with mi, use first-person plural; if it starts with ti (meaning 'You (singular) and X'), use second-person plural.
- Word Order Flexibility: The plural pronoun and the comitative phrase can form a discontinuous syntactic unit. They can be separated by verbs or adverbs without losing the inclusory meaning, and their linear ordering can even be reversed (e.g., Jánossal mi is perfectly grammatical). For example, Mi gyakran megyünk koncertre Évával means 'Éva and I often go to concerts'.
- Pro-drop and Ambiguity: Even when the pronoun mi is retained, the construction remains inherently ambiguous. For instance, Mi Jánossal megyünk can mean 'John and I are going' (inclusory reading) or 'We (three or more) are going with John' (comitative reading). Because Hungarian is a pro-drop language, the pronoun mi is usually dropped in this specific construction and is generally only kept for emphasis. For example, A feleségemmel mentünk is the most natural way to say 'My wife and I went'. The inclusory meaning survives even without the pronoun. Jánossal megyünk carries the exact same ambiguity ('John and I are going' vs 'We are going with John'). However, when a phrase like Jánossal megyünk is used out of the blue without prior context, the default assumption by a native speaker is the inclusory reading ('John and I are going').
Examples (6)
- Mi Jánossal moziba megyünk.
János and I are going to the movies.
Word by Word: We János-with cinema-into go-we.
This is the classic inclusory plural pronominal construction (IPPC). 'Mi Jánossal' literally means 'we with János', but translates to 'János and I'.
- A feleségemmel itthonról dolgozunk.
My wife and I are working from home.
Word by Word: The wife-my-with home-from work-we.
The pronoun 'mi' is usually dropped in this construction unless emphasized. The first-person plural verb 'dolgozunk' makes it clear that it means 'my wife and I'.
- Mi veled mindig jól érezzük magunkat.
You and I always have a good time.
Word by Word: We you-with always well feel-we ourselves-acc.
The comitative element can be a conjugated pronoun. 'Mi veled' means 'you and I'.
- Ők a férjével eldöntötték a kérdést.
She and her husband decided the matter.
Word by Word: They the husband-her-with away-decided-they the question-acc.
This pattern also applies to the third person. 'Ők a férjével' means 'she and her husband', using the plural pronoun 'ők' with a singular possessive.
- Ti a kutyáddal sokat sétáltok.
You and your dog walk a lot.
Word by Word: You-plural the dog-your-with a-lot-acc walk-you-plural.
Applied to the second person, 'ti' combined with a singular comitative noun means 'you (singular) and X'.
- Tegnap mi is elmentünk Jánossal a boltba.
Yesterday János and I also went to the store.
Word by Word: Yesterday we also away-went-we János-with the store-into.
The plural pronoun and the comitative phrase can be separated by verbs or other words without losing the inclusory meaning.
Common Mistakes
Assuming 'Mi Jánossal' always refers to exactly three people (You, I, and John).
Mi Jánossal hárman vagyunk.Mi Jánossal ketten vagyunk.In the inclusory plural construction, the plural pronoun 'mi' includes the speaker and the person named. 'Mi Jánossal' means 'John and I' (two people).
Using barátainkkal (our friends) when you mean 'my friends and I'.
Different MeaningMi a barátainkkal mentünk.Mi a barátaimmal mentünk.When saying 'my friends and I', the noun takes the singular possessor suffix (barátaim) because the speaker is the sole possessor, even though the overall subject is 'we'.
Using the singular pronoun 'én' with a plural verb in the comitative construction.
Én Jánossal megyünk.Mi Jánossal megyünk.Hungarian requires the plural pronoun 'mi' to match the plural verb 'megyünk' when expressing 'John and I' using the comitative case.
How It Connects
Learn This First
To understand how Hungarian uses context to distinguish between inclusive 'we' (you and I) and exclusive 'we' (they and I), learners must first be comfortable with the basic pronoun 'mi' and the corresponding first-person plural verb conjugations. Additionally, knowing how to use the comitative suffix '-val/-vel' is helpful, as it is a common grammatical strategy to clarify who is included in the 'we' group.
- Present Indefinite Endings
The distinction between inclusive and exclusive 'we' is often clarified by the verb endings that agree with the pronoun 'mi'.
Level 1 - -val/-velWith / by Means of
The comitative suffix is frequently used to explicitly define the group members included in 'mi' (e.g., 'mi veled' vs 'mi vele').
Level 1
Related Patterns
- Subject Pronouns and Pro-Drop
Explains why 'mi' is often omitted and how the verb endings carry the meaning of 'we'.
Level 1 - mi (kérdőszó)What
The interrogative 'what' which is a common homonym for the personal pronoun 'we'.
Level 1 - -ékAssociative Plural
A suffix used to refer to a group associated with a person, sharing the logic of 'plural of association' found in the IPPC.
Level 3