seit/seitdem

Since (Seit/seitdem)

Level 3

seit/seitdem = 'since' (temporal only).
Used to connect a starting event to a subsequent ongoing situation in the present or past.

How It Works

The words seit and seitdem connect a starting event to a subsequent ongoing situation in the present or past. The main clause describes the action that continues, while the subordinate clause can refer to either an ongoing action or a completed event.

1. Main Roles:

  • As a Preposition: Seit (but never seitdem) is a dative preposition used to mean 'since' a point in time or 'for' an ongoing duration. Everything that follows it takes dative endings (e.g., 'seit einem Jahr', 'seit einer Woche', 'seit Monaten').
  • As Conjunctions: Both can introduce a subordinate clause where the verb goes to the end. If the sentence starts with this subordinate clause, the following main clause must immediately begin with the verb to maintain verb-second word order (e.g., 'Seitdem ich in Berlin wohne, bin ich glücklich' - Since I have been living in Berlin, I have been happy).
  • As Adverbs: Seitdem (and its synonym seither) often functions as a temporal adverb meaning 'since then'. It can occupy position 1, where the verb must follow in position 2 (e.g., 'Seitdem wohne ich in Berlin' - Since then, I have been living in Berlin), or it can be placed in the middle of the sentence (e.g., 'Ich wohne seitdem in Berlin'). Seit cannot be used this way.

2. Tense Selection:

  • Main Clause: If a state or habit is still ongoing in the present, the main clause requires the Present Tense (unlike English, which uses the Present Perfect). This applies to both positive states and negated ongoing habits (e.g., 'Ich arbeite seit einem Jahr nicht' - I haven't been working for a year). However, if you are focusing on an event that has failed to occur up to the present moment, or a counted/quantified action within that timeframe, German uses the Perfekt (e.g., 'Ich habe ihn seit einem Jahr nicht gesehen' - I haven't seen him for a year). If a positive state was ongoing at a past reference point, German uses the Präteritum (e.g., 'Als ich ihn traf, wohnte ich seit 2010 in Berlin', or 'Sie arbeitete seit ihrem 19. Lebensjahr in Vollzeit'). The Plusquamperfekt is used when the state had been running right up to that past reference point and then stopped or changed at that very moment (e.g., 'Als er endlich kam, hatte ich seit zwei Stunden gewartet' - When he finally arrived, I had been waiting for two hours). With seit the stretch of time always touches the reference point; it never describes something that had already finished beforehand.
  • Subordinate Clause & Mixed Tenses: If the action in the 'since' clause is still ongoing, use the Present Tense. If it refers to a completed event, use the Perfekt or Präteritum. This often creates a sentence with Mixed Tenses (Subordinate = Past, Main = Present). For example: 'Seitdem ich einen Unfall hatte, sitze ich im Rollstuhl' (Since I had an accident, I have been in a wheelchair).

3. Seit vs. Seitdem:

  • Usage: As conjunctions, both are grammatically interchangeable, but there is a slight stylistic difference. Seit is much more common in everyday spoken German, whereas seitdem is slightly more emphatic and formal.
  • Preposition Use: As mentioned, only seit can be a dative preposition followed by a noun (e.g., 'seit Montag' - since Monday). Seitdem can never be used as a preposition.

4. Common Pitfalls:

  • Seitdem vs. seit dem: Do not confuse the one-word conjunction or adverb seitdem with the two-word phrase seit dem, which is the preposition seit followed by the dative article dem (e.g., 'seit dem Tag' - since the day).
  • Causal 'Since': German never uses seit to mean 'because'; use da or weil instead.
  • Since vs. For: English uses 'since' for a point in time and 'for' for a duration. German uses seit for both! Use it for a point in time (e.g., 'seit 2010' - since 2010) and for an ongoing duration (e.g., 'Ich wohne seit drei Jahren hier' - I have been living here for three years). Do not use für for ongoing durations.
  • Seit vs. Seid: Because of terminal devoicing, seit (since) and seid (you all are - from sein) sound identical. Remember: seit is for time, while seid is a verb!

Examples (4)

  1. Seit ich in Berlin wohne, trinke ich viel Kaffee.

    Since I have been living in Berlin, I drink a lot of coffee.

    Word by Word: Since I in Berlin live, drink I much coffee.

    Both clauses use the present tense because the speaker still lives in Berlin and still drinks coffee.

  2. Seitdem er seinen Job verloren hat, ist er sehr traurig.

    Since he lost his job, he has been very sad.

    Word by Word: Since he his job lost has, is he very sad.

    The 'since' clause uses the Perfekt because losing the job is a completed event, but the main clause is present because he is still sad.

  3. Ich fühle mich fitter, seit ich regelmäßig Sport treibe.

    I feel fitter since I have been exercising regularly.

    Word by Word: I feel myself fitter, since I regularly sport exercise.

    Note the verb 'treibe' at the end of the subordinate clause.

  4. Seit wir uns kennen, helfen wir uns immer.

    Since we have known each other, we always help each other.

    Word by Word: Since we us know, help we us always.

    The present tense 'kennen' shows that the relationship is ongoing.

Common Mistakes

  • Using the past tense for an ongoing state in the main clause.

    Ich habe hier gewohnt, seit ich ein Kind war.
    Ich wohne hier, seit ich ein Kind war.

    If you still live there, German requires the present tense. Using the Perfekt implies you no longer live there, which contradicts the meaning of 'seit'.

  • Using 'seit' to mean 'because'.

    Seit es regnet, bleibe ich zu Hause.
    Weil es regnet, bleibe ich zu Hause.

    In German, 'seit' is strictly for time. For reasons/causes, use 'weil' or 'da'.

  • Confusing 'seit' (since) with 'vor' (ago).

    Ich bin seit zwei Jahren nach Deutschland gekommen.
    Ich bin vor zwei Jahren nach Deutschland gekommen.

    'Vor' is used for a completed point in time in the past (ago). 'Seit' is used for a duration that continues until now.

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seit/seitdemLevel 3Since (Seit/seitdem)

Learn This First

To use 'seit' or 'seitdem' as a conjunction, you need to understand how German subordinate clauses are structured (verb-final position). It is also helpful to be familiar with the prepositional use of 'seit' with the dative case and how to form past tenses, as these patterns often describe the duration of an event from a point in the past.

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