meiän / teiän
Spoken Meiän and Teiän
Common colloquial counterparts of meidän (our) and teidän (your) are meiän and teiän. Regional and individual alternatives also occur.
How It Works
In spoken Finnish (puhekieli), the standard genitive pronouns meidän and teidän are shortened by removing the 'd'. Historically, the 'd' was introduced into the written language to represent a sound that existed in Old Finnish. While pronouncing the 'd' is standard and natural in formal spoken contexts (like news broadcasts or professional settings), the reduced variants are also common in casual speech. Dropping the consonant entirely is historically an Eastern dialect feature that has spread to general colloquial speech.
Key Rules:
- meiän = our (standard: meidän)
- teiän = your, plural (standard: teidän). Note that while standard teidän can be used for formal singular address, teiän often refers to several people; respectful address to one person is also possible, depending on context.
Common Variants:
After d is lost, a glide may bridge the vowel sequence; spellings with j represent this pronunciation: meijän and teijän. Both are very natural and common in everyday speech. You may also encounter regional variants like meirän and teirän (Western dialects), or older/regional forms like meitin and teitin.
The Third Person:
Unlike the first and second person, the word heidän (their) is rarely just shortened in general urban speech, though heiän is a feature in Eastern dialects. Instead, many speakers use the demonstrative pronouns niiden or niitten (standard: niiden, from ne) to mean "their". Similarly, for the third person singular, hänen (his/her) is replaced by the spoken demonstrative pronoun sen (from se).
The Suffix Rule:
In standard Finnish, you use a genitive pronoun and a suffix (e.g., meidän automme). For the 1st and 2nd persons, this makes the pronoun optional. For the 3rd person, standard Finnish requires both the pronoun and the suffix when the possessor is not the subject of the sentence (e.g., hänen autonsa), but strictly omits the pronoun when the possessor is the subject (e.g., Pekka luki kirjansa). In spoken Finnish, possessive suffixes are generally dropped, though exceptions exist (like the shortened 2nd person singular sun autos or the 3rd person reflexive). Because the suffix is usually dropped, the pronoun becomes obligatory to indicate possession. You simply place the spoken pronoun before the noun: meiän auto, sen auto, or niitten koti. However, be careful with the 3rd person reflexive: Pekka luki sen kirjan can mean that Pekka read that book; sen can also express possession in context, so this sentence does not unambiguously say whose book it was. To say 'his own' in spoken Finnish, speakers heavily rely on the word oma (own), e.g., Pekka luki oman kirjan or Se ajoi omalla autolla, or they might keep the standard possessive suffix.
Register:
These are common colloquial forms rather than a separate slang vocabulary. They are widespread, but no single form is compulsory in conversations with friends or family. You should avoid them in formal writing, but they are perfect for text messages and daily chat.
Keep the Case Ending
Standard meidän autossamme corresponds to colloquial meiän autossa. Only possessive -mme is absent; inessive -ssa still means in. Similarly, teidän kodistanne → teiän kodista retains elative -sta. Pronoun and possessive-suffix combinations vary in actual speech; a shortened pronoun does not grammatically prohibit a suffix.
Examples (5)
- Meiän auto on tossa parkissa.
Our car is parked right there.
Word by Word: Our car is in-that park.
Notice that 'auto' does not have the suffix '-mme' because 'meiän' is used.
- Onks tää teiän koti?
Is this your home?
Word by Word: Is-it this your home?
Uses the spoken question form 'onks' and the spoken pronoun 'teiän'.
- Mennäänkö meiän luo?
Shall we go to our place?
Word by Word: Shall-we-go our to?
Commonly used with postpositions like 'luo' (to/at someone's place).
- Missä teiän koira on?
Where is your dog?
Word by Word: Where your dog is?
A simple possessive structure in a question.
- Meiän pitää mennä jo.
We have to go already.
Word by Word: Our must go already.
Used here as the subject of a 'pitää' (must) construction in spoken style.
Common Mistakes
Dropping the case ending along with the possessive suffix when you mean "in our car".
Istutaan meiän auto.Istutaan meiän autossa.For a location inside the car, retain -ssa. The missing possessive suffix -mme does not remove location marking.
Using spoken forms in a formal application.
Different MeaningVoitte vastata meiän puolesta.Voitte vastata meidän puolestamme.A formal application normally uses standard meidän and possessive -mme on puolesta. The reduced form is appropriate in colloquial contexts.
Using the regional heiän in careful writing.
Different MeaningHeiän talo on iso.Heidän talonsa on iso.Heiän occurs in regional speech as a counterpart of heidän. In standard writing, use heidän with the possessive suffix. Niiden and niitten are the widespread colloquial forms for "their".
How It Connects
Learn This First
To understand 'meiän' and 'teiän', you first need to know the standard genitive forms 'meidän' and 'teidän'. You should also be familiar with how Finnish pronouns are shortened in speech and the fact that spoken Finnish typically drops the possessive suffix from the noun, relying only on the genitive pronoun to show ownership.